Season 2 · Episode 6
Judd Lander is one of the most experienced and storied figures in the UK music industry, with a career spanning six decades. He started as a musician in Liverpool, ended up at The Beatles' Apple Records, was present for The Beatles' final rooftop performance, played harmonica on Karma Chameleon, worked with ABBA, Michael Jackson, Prince and Annie Lennox, and spent 21 years at the BRIT Awards.
Judd Lander describes his journey as a magical mystery tour, and he is not wrong. He was working at a stonemasons in Liverpool when a draftsman in the office who played in a band got him into music.
He went to the Iron Door, saw a band play and thought "I want a bit of that." He put an ad in a music shop - "sax player looking for a gig" - bought the wrong sax (wrong pitch entirely), played in the wrong key at the audition, and was asked if he played anything else. He said "a bit of harmonica." He got the job. He became the harmonica player in The Hideaways, who got a residency at the Cavern Club when The Beatles and others left Liverpool for London. He ended up at Apple Records doing PR alongside John Lennon (who wound him up constantly) and George Harrison, and was on the rooftop for The Beatles' final performance, trying to stay out of shot.
He played harmonica on Karma Chameleon, which he composed in under 30 minutes for £100. He accidentally met Scary Spice at a session and asked her to make him a coffee before realising she was one of the singers. He spent 21 years at the BRIT Awards capturing real human moments for cameras. Amy Winehouse asked him to get a moment with her parents if she won. She won. He got it.
Duration: 61 minutes 18 Seconds
Season: 2 · Episode 6
Also available: Audio only on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and Acast
Liverpool, The Hideaways and filling in for The Beatles at the Cavern
Judd Lander's story begins at a stonemasons in Liverpool, where his mother got him a "proper" job and a draftsman in the office played in a band and changed everything. He went to the Iron Door. He saw what music looked like live. He bought the wrong sax, played in the wrong key, talked his way in with a bit of harmonica, and ended up in The Hideaways - a band that got a residency at the Cavern Club precisely because The Beatles and others had left Liverpool for London and left a gap. The Hideaways stepped into it. They played the Cavern more than most bands because they were always available to step in. They even ended up in one of the first-ever brand-music collaborations, with Timex watches.
Apple Records, John Lennon and the rooftop
Eventually Judd ended up in London, found his way into Apple Records and started doing bits of PR. He met John Lennon - "very funny, always winding me up." He met George Harrison - went out for dinner and someone spotted him and shouted "it's a Beatle" and everything erupted. He was there the day of the famous rooftop performance. "I was up there," he says, "trying to stay out of sight." He describes it with the warmth of someone who has had sixty years to understand how extraordinary it was.
Karma Chameleon, Scary Spice's coffee and the BRITs
Two of the funniest stories in this episode involve Judd's harmonica. The first: a call to play on a Culture Club track, arriving and playing the part in under 30 minutes, being paid £100, having no idea what it would become. That track was Karma Chameleon. The second: at a Spice Girls session, asking the girl nearest to him to make him a coffee, then discovering she was Scary Spice. He spent 21 years at the BRIT Awards spotting real human moments for cameras - the thing that makes live television come alive. At the BRITs when Amy Winehouse won, she had asked him specifically to capture a moment with her parents if it happened. It happened. He got it. He is glad he did.
Michael Jackson, Prince and what real star quality looks like
Judd's accounts of working with ABBA and Michael Jackson are specific and grounded. ABBA were brilliant but not always a hit machine - there were ups and downs that their legend has smoothed over. Michael Jackson was completely normal: funny, curious, interested in things like the traditions of Buckingham Palace, not at all the figure his public image suggested. "Prince was the musician's musician," Judd says. "He could play anything." His view on AI in music is measured: he hears tracks that sound extraordinary and turn out to be AI-generated. He still leans towards the real, organic thing. But he is honest that the line is becoming harder to find.
"I played harmonica on Karma Chameleon in under 30 minutes. I got paid £100. I had absolutely no idea what it would become."
- Judd Lander - On working with Culture Club
"Amy Winehouse asked me specifically to capture a moment with her parents if she won. She won. I got it. I am very glad I did."
- Judd Lander - n 21 years at the BRIT Awards
"Prince was the musician's musician. He could play anything. Michael was just normal - funny, curious, a good laugh. That's what real star quality looks like from the inside."
- Judd Lander - on six decades working with the greatest artists in music
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Judd Lander is one of the most experienced and storied figures in the UK music industry, with a career spanning six decades. He started as a musician in Liverpool, ended up at The Beatles' Apple Records, was present for The Beatles' final rooftop performance, played harmonica on Karma Chameleon, worked with ABBA, Michael Jackson, Prince and Annie Lennox, and spent 21 years at the BRIT Awards.
Yes. Judd Lander was present on the rooftop at Apple Corps for The Beatles' final live performance - the famous rooftop concert in January 1969. He describes spending it trying to stay out of sight of the cameras.
Yes. Judd Lander played harmonica on Karma Chameleon by Culture Club, recording his part in under 30 minutes and being paid £100. He had no idea at the time of the scale of success the record would achieve.
The Blinding Talent Music Industry Podcast is hosted by Mark Adams - founder of Blinding Talent and former Director of Music Programming at Channel 4. Guests include Judd Lander, Colin Barlow, Sol Parker, Jacqui Quaife and many others whose collective experience spans virtually every era of the modern music industry.
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